S (findings of fact), Re

Alistair MacDonald QC and Christopher Poole (instructed Turpin & Miller LLP) for the Father Charles Geekie QC and Victoria McLaughlin (instructed by Clifton Ingram Solicitors) for the Mother Simon Miller (instructed by Griffiths Robertson Solicitors) for the Children MS and AS (Grandparents) represented themselves Hearing dates: 12th-14th, 17th-18th and 21st December 2012; Judgment date 14 January 2013 ____________________

This judgment consists of 177 paragraphs. Pursuant to CPR PD 39A para 6.1 no official shorthand note shall be taken and copies of this version as handed down may be treated as authentic.

A I am scared. I am afraid for the safety of my children. M is the son of someone who is convicted ... I just wish I had nothing to do with this.

A No. The mother has therefore knowingly filed a sequence of false statements on this issue, continuing to do so even into the course of this hearing. The further information that she has given has not been volunteered but extracted after she has been cornered. This shows that she is quite willing to lie to the court when she thinks it in the interests of herself or the children to do so.

The evidence about the family's departure to Pakistan in 1996 supports the reason given by mother, and not that given by the grandfather. It also demonstrates that sister F has chosen to back her parents.